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To be or not to be in Australia

We continue this series as we keep getting mails about reports of attacks on Indian students in Australia.  As the attacks continue, we present yet another enthralling article by our writer from Australia in continuation to the previous one, Discrimination? What Discrimination?

Following is a write-up titled as "Harassment of Indian Students Continue" sent to us by an Indian-born Australian staying with his family in Australia for the past 30 years. The identity of the writer has not been disclosed on his request. Please note that we at NNE neither support nor oppose the content of the following article.



Harassment of Indian Students Continue

In the foregoing story that Australia is an inherently racist nation, further acts of violence against Indians are starting to expose further glimpses into the level of discrimination suffered by those of Indian origin. (See the stories at Australia’s ABC Government News for the Griffiths and the Riverina  Area - one of the largest Country Areas, like Dihats in India). There is no difference between treatment meted to Indians in Small Towns, Villages or Major Cities. It is essentially the same throughout the country.

As racism is a way of life in Australia, many fabricators try to make people believe that these occurrences are related to foreign customs and ways of living thereby psychologically reducing the impact on the local populace. It appears that the “feel good” philosophy appeases the minds of the local population who utilise excuses as a way of assuming nothing has happened that would not have happened in the country of origin of the maimed or killed Indians. It is a part of being accepted as ‘being Australian’ that a lot of people can not even recognise the racist comments right before their eyes.

It is sufficient to say that “ignorance is bliss” and the population follow the local media’s hype and spin, doctoring the events affecting Indians, as the local saying goes: “They are lucky to be in the Lucky Country and would have been suffering misery in their own homes”.

And, Of course, in the case of Mr Ranjodh Singh, who was recently murdered, Police statements even before an investigation commenced used the comment of: “the unfortunate outcome of what has been an escalating occurrence of violence in this region in regard to contractors welshing on paying the labour.” STRANGE! No investigations have commenced and yet Mr Singh is accused of cheating his workers as he is dead and cannot be present to prove otherwise?

This article started as a way to vent problems of Indian students, but it goes far beyond expectations into the lives of Indians in every walk of life. This article incorporates ALL Indians – students, business people and visitors alike with no holds barred – Just basic facts with footnotes for easy reference/proof and no fiction as circulated by the Politicians of Australia when trying to apply their diplomatic acts  and appease the Indian Government.

However, there is more from students in Australia in the ensuing paragraphs of this article.
In another violent attack on an Indian Student, in Melbourne , during the same period, Ms Julia Gillard, the deputy prime minister immediately made comments that “there should be no rush to judgement over the attacks and defended Australia's crime rate as one of the world's lowest” even before investigations had started, adding "We all know, tragically, in the world that we live in, whether you're in Melbourne, or whether you're in New Delhi, you can come to grief through violent incidents,” in order to appease the population and justify the actions of racially motivated persons.

On searching the Internet, there has never been a similar attack on anyone in Australia as has been in the case of Nitin Garg who was stabbed to death while walking to work. I guess the authorities are now starting to actually see the racism Indians of all walks of life (Students, Businessmen, Workers, Visitors, etc..) have borne in the past years and the only means to justify the racist populace is to make comments without facts.

If the authorities are not hounding Indians in Australia, the ignorant populace certainly is.
When you visit a McDonalds, with an Indian Student serving you, complaints of poor service and incompetence rise dramatically. When you visit an Indian Business and are not served with massive bargaining discounts not offered by non-Indian Companies, the same applies and discriminatory complaints are made to the Office of Fair Trading for incompetence and pricing. The same fate is also suffered by Indian Restaurants, Indian Taxi Drivers and others. Keep in mind that it is the Indian businesses who are major employers of Indian students in Australia and what better way of teaching the Indian students a lesson other than affecting Indian Businesses.
In recent discussions with local Indian students, comments made were quite astounding when compared to the treatment meted out to them by their peers, as compared to “white skinned” Australians and Europeans.

A couple of examples are herein as stated by two Indian students recently.

A student, whom we shall call “A” remarked last week as follows:
“The Managing Director of our College, Mr. “X”, when approached with our problems tells us to go back to your country if you are unhappy and further threatens to cancel the students’ Copy of Enrolment” thereby automatically invalidating the Indian students visa which in turn automatically makes legally residing students into illegal aliens who can and are deported from Australia.
This, naturally, makes it impossible for Indian students to say anything at all for fear of reprisals.
“A” further went on to say “that they are being overcharged and ordered to pay extra costs for anything required of the Colleges they study in and are being failed in order to increase their length of stay so that the college can earn more from them.” And, naturally, when the students request reasons for their failures, they are sent to the Managing Director of the College who threatens them with the usual deportation facility available.

This of course, leaves students with no other recourse than to quietly suffer consequences as they have spent oodles of money in order to obtain qualifications from Australia. Please note that if such remarks or actions are taken against non-Indian students, it is immediately reported to the Authorities and plastered over the news in Australia with severe consequences too!

This is confirmed by reports in another major Australian Daily Newspaper the Age which quite categorically backs up Student “A’s” allegations by stating on Thursday January 7, 2010, the following :
“Unscrupulous practices by some colleges and migration agents also battered Australia's reputation as a study destination.”

In the same article in The Age Daily Newspaper appears the following, with the usual excuses for the underlying reasons, of course:
“Andrew Smith, the chief executive of the Australian Council for Private Education and Training, which represents private colleges, said he was expecting a ''significant'' decline in international enrolments this year from several countries, including India and China.”
In another instance, a student whom we shall call “B” says “Indian Students who drive Taxis have a dark future as there are two sets of rules. One for Indian Drivers and the other one for English Drivers”.

“B” stated that if any driver goes to management with a problem, they don’t respect the Indian driver and are not interested in the problem at all. Instead of this, if an English Driver has the exact problem, he is responded to in one day and the problem resolved”. Adding, “With the Indian driver, and the same problem, they tell him to carry on with his work and threaten to cancel his Taxi Licence if he persists with his claim.”

These are just a couple of examples faced by Indian students who work their legally stated hours to earn extra income while in Australia.

In all instance, the usual threat is that some form of punishment will be meted out if Indian students who demand equality and fairness which is given out to non-Indians, and if they persist in requesting equality dire consequences by way of income or deportation is used to silence them.
In the recent case of the Indian businessman who was being harassed by a Senior Manager of Fair Trading in a cloak and dagger mission and who vowed to “close the Indian Business down,” correspondence has been received from the same Manager about whom the complaint was made against for bias. He responded to the complaint himself stating that he would continue to act “personally” in the matter and the businessman received the letter which was duly signed by the same Manager against whom the complaint had been made (not from his senior to whom the charges has been forwarded) and which clearly and categorically declined that the biased Manager would stand aside and, naturally, the matter will proceed with his bias. He continues to deal with the matter personally inspite of requests for non-bias investigation. So much for “Fair” Trading when it comes to an Indian.

This clearly adds to the problems faced by Indians where, in a case involving a non-Indian, would automatically have had this person removed and fairness introduced. However, as stated in this series of articles, the rules are different when it involves Indians – whether they be students or otherwise.

Contrary to Australian Leaders who addressed the Indian Government about fairness and equality, the above clearly shows two sets of racist rules in Australia – One for Indians and one for the non-Indians. Remember, when we speak about Indians, we are also talking about the indigenous people of Australia – the Aborigines – who suffer the same fate.
Yes ! Australia is racist... it is not the first time they have shown like this culture they have shown to us whenever they got chances. India should stop playing cricket with them, still every thing goes normal.
by Debashish Ghosh (Jamshedpur) on Feb 22, 2010 1:41 AM IST Report Abuse
For more info read url: http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?264016 See the sheep follow their masters! The British left India, but we Indians have not forgotten the chains of slavery YET! And neither will we rise to the occasion until and unless we Raise our Voices and are heard by all and sunder!
by Jack (Australia) on Feb 11, 2010 11:52 AM IST Report Abuse
The more I read, the more I think of New Zealand and its sheep. The sheep in New Zealand are let to slaughter after being fattened and fed. The same seems to apply to some people who leave India for greener pastures, get fed and treated like the New Zealand sheep and are treated like sub humans and slaughtered. Difference? I find none. Everyone know that there is a problem, and it has to be resolved by non-sheep raising their voices and being heard in order that injustices are put to an end and people from all walks of life have the equality and fairness that they deserve. However, it appears that the sheep outnumber the non-sheep who stand up for what they believe in and there lies the problem of why such matters drag on for longer than they should. Just a lack of guts and moral fortitude while they fatten in a world they have just come to and where they get more than they can at home. But remember, fattened cows are always the first ones to go to the slaughterhouse. Being placid and ignoring issues only creates worse situations at a later date whereby acting at the start shortens the misery. You do not wait until you are death's door to see a doctor and cure the problem and the symptoms. You go for the cure at the start if you want to survive. Having said that I reiterate: "It is fair to say that Indians should not boycott Australia because of current events but should ensure they are heard and racism against Indians from all walks of life, Students, Business and Visitors, should cease and the Government finally take into account the Indian voices and amend legislation accordingly."
by Jack Johnson (Australia) on Feb 7, 2010 8:26 AM IST Report Abuse
Mahi, If one goes by your views than the entire Indian media should be overlooked as everyone has raised this issue of National importance. I feel NNE has raised this issue in the right earnest.
by Indian (Delhi) on Feb 6, 2010 5:52 AM IST Report Abuse
Endless loquacity!! Endless loquacity!! Endless loquacity!! Endless loquacity!! Endless loquacity!! Endless loquacity!! Endless loquacity!! STOP IT.... DONT ACT LIKE CRAZY NUTS... DONT WASTE YOUR TIME ON THIS CRAP TOPICS.. WONT BENEFIT ANY 1....
by Mahi Khan (hyderabad) on Feb 6, 2010 1:12 AM IST Report Abuse
WHAT'S ALL THIS... DAM SHIT Stop talking on all this topics... this is just the tatics to get people attracted towards site.. and anger force all to post comments, which leads in all this.. which is a real nonsense... So FREND'S STOP commenting on this topics wont help any 1 ...
by Mahi Khan (hyderabad) on Feb 6, 2010 1:05 AM IST Report Abuse
Is this an official GD topic??Jaaeez Whtz the use of posting such a baffling and dishevelled comments on such issues, Person who has posted this web is exaggerating the situation by biasing the situation, Shame on that person who is discussing these issues! If you have so much courtesy, get off to a good start inspite of unnecessarily involving ppl from all around the globe and discussing these fucking matters! Shame on you,Stop posting comments! Do Good for a mankind instead of wasting time in posting comments!
by ras (USA) on Feb 6, 2010 12:54 AM IST Report Abuse
Are you people serious, From pre-school through high school and most of my working life I have lived and worked with many races. Never have I done anything offensive or aggressive to members of another race stemming from any racist belief. As a white Australian male I would like to bring the point up that at times I feel discriminated against. Lumping an entire race in with the very small amount of racist idiots is a form of racism itself. Or is it only racist if a white person is to say what most of you have??. I have problems with every culture and no culture, mine included. To any person of a non-white race thinking of visitng or moving to australia, please do not be put off by these fools saying it is a racist country. While there are some racists here there is also some in every country, most of us aussies welcome you and your rich culture with open arms. But on the flip side i hate when people immigrate here then sit around on welfare or whining by religious groups for rights that aren't congruent with Australian society like implementation of Sharia Law and even people who want to take from Australia but not contribute. This is a wonderful country and all races who move here should not try and change it to be like there own but instead bring the best of your country to mix with the best of ours to make one of the greatest in the world.
by Luka (Brisbane) on Feb 4, 2010 5:30 AM IST Report Abuse
I was in Australia before. I understand the concerns of the people of our country and I also know of the recent incident where they said that all the 3 assailants of the Indian, who were arrested recently, were Indians. I am sure there has been some malpractices from the side of the Australian police and government, because they are capable of blaming our own people for our miseries, even though it's not true. I am sure the real assailants were none other than the white Australians themselves.
by Meena K (Delhi) on Jan 30, 2010 10:28 AM IST Report Abuse
San, Your views are not correct and no one discriminates people of North East India as you have described. IN fact there has been lot of discrimination against the non locals in North East India. Do you deserve being called an Indian with your comments ". India is a racist country and they should be treated like they r now treated in austrlia in all other the country."
by Indian (Delhi) on Jan 27, 2010 1:27 PM IST Report Abuse
Just like indian people discriminate north-east people calling them chinkies and bahadurs to poor indian gorkhas living in north east of india.. India is a racist country and they should be treated like they r now treated in austrlia in all other the country.
by san (northeast india) on Jan 25, 2010 9:36 PM IST Report Abuse
Rahul - Just an addition. Got home from work today only to hear on the 6 O'Clock news that 2 Indian students had been bashed up in Brisbane. One was a Taxi Driver who was told by the skinheads (who have since been arrested and bailed) that "we do not pay Indian taxi drivers". The Queensland Government has, naturally, come out within the hour and said it was not due to racism. Yet the skinheads who bashed the taxi driver say the opposite. With attacks in Sydney in New South Wales, Melbourne in Victoria and Brisbane in Queensland, it adds upto three states of Australia where discrimination is raising its ugly head. Remember, Australia only has six states. I thought I'd let you know what has happened in a matter or fours hours since the last update.
by Jack Johnson (Australia) on Jan 22, 2010 3:17 PM IST Report Abuse
Therefore, dont boycott/stop coming to Australia. Educate them in our culture so that, just like the Greeks, Italian & other Europeans, we may assimilate into Australian society without racism. This articles is aptly named: “Raise your Voice” (if you want to be at par with Australians). Bowing ones head every time a hurdle arises, ensures you are treated as a sub-human. Indians face more than what media reports at the hands of a dying breed “white Australia” generation who find any excuse to take it out on Indians from all walks of life. However, they do not discriminate on what sort of Indian you are.
by Jack Johnson (Australia) on Jan 22, 2010 12:47 PM IST Report Abuse
In general, Australians are not a bad lot. It is just that the “white Australia” generation hold positions of power and are exercising their final rites before the matter comes to a finale. Consequently, I say to those who want a sentence for short fame to set their brains into gear before speaking out as the racism in Australia cannot end unless action is taken. And, naturally, action is not taken until voices are heard. Attacks on innocent people occur around the world everywhere irrespective of their origins. However, the Australian Race Discrimination Commissioner in his media release specifies it is mainly against Indians in Australia. I guess the “alleged” students must know more than the Commissioner to say what they do. There is no cultural rift, just plain ignorance which if not check soon may lead to dire consequences.
by Jack Johnson (Australia) on Jan 22, 2010 12:36 PM IST Report Abuse
Furthermore, everyone in this country roams around at night without fear with the exception of the Indians. The Race Discrimination Commissioner points out “Indians are the targets”, and so forth. I wonder whether those “alleged” students are more qualified in their statements than the Government Department which deals with such matters. It is fair to say that Indians should not boycott Australia because of current events but should ensure they are heard and racism against Indians from all walks of life, Students, Business and Visitors, should cease and the Government finally take into account the Indian voices and amend legislation accordingly.
by Jack Johnson (Australia) on Jan 22, 2010 12:35 PM IST Report Abuse
Another Point hereunder: . Furthermore, I have read with interest that the Indian media has blown matters out of proportion. Therefore, can I assume my learned writers have read that the Australian media continues to use the “sour grapes” philosophy without reason when they state the Indian media are blowing up the story in retaliation for Australia rejecting India’s desire to buy uranium from Australia and a knock back from the Australian Government? Who is blowing up what, is my question.
by Jack Johnson (Australian) on Jan 22, 2010 12:33 PM IST Report Abuse
Yes, Rahul! I am an Anglo Indian. I really am surprised at some of the comments by “alleged” students to Australia who make claims without understanding reality. To Them I have just one question & I reiterate: “How many Indian students have been invited into Australian homes during their stay, even for a glass of water?" I talk to many students here & their answer is: "NOT ONE"! When anyone of Greek, Lebanese, Italian, etc., heritage is meted treatment, they are invited & offered a beer for hospitality. Just like we do in India where you offer refreshments to visitors. Yet, this treatment is not meted - Just to the Indians.
by Jack Johnson (Australia) on Jan 22, 2010 12:08 PM IST Report Abuse
Wow! Mate (Jack), comments such as yours coming from a resident of Australia speaks a lot about the ground reality. Are you an Australian? Could you share more details about the things you have seen around in Australia?
by Rahul (Delhi) on Jan 21, 2010 4:58 PM IST Report Abuse
Just an addendum: "The Indian media that has blown it up out of proportion. Attacks on innocent citizens for gain is common all over the globe." The Australian media has blown it up with statements that India is retaliating because of being insulted by no Uranium from Australia! Besides, I find it very strange that comments state there is no racism inspite Media Releases by the Australian Human Rights Commissioner clearly stating (six months ago) that there was racism in Australia, particularly towards Indians!!! The media release stated: Australian "Race Discrimination Commissioner Calma said he was appalled by reports of the cowardly and violent acts that have been perpetrated, most recently, on international students from India." (2 June 2009 Media Release) which added: "Commissioner Calma said the Australian Human Rights Commission had received anecdotal information over the last four years about increasing levels of hostility towards international students." I guess comments show that those who have visited or live overseas seem to know more that the Australian Government's own Race Discrimination Commissioner.
by Jack Johnson (Australia) on Jan 21, 2010 4:59 AM IST Report Abuse
I have read comments herein and am amazed! I note that students who studied in Australia actually want hindered and restricted rights for Indian students "by NOT roaming around in the mid night. if they cant do that you cant blame australians for tat"! So, basically, Students from everywhere can roam around, as they do, with the exception of Indians? I wonder why. Another point raised is that there is a cultural rift. When in Rome, do as the Romans do is a good old fashioned saying that augurs well in a just and equated society. However, I ask again: "How many Indian students have been invited into Australian homes during their stay, even for a glass of water? I mix and talk to many students here today and their answer is: "NOT ONE"! It is very easy to judge from a distance when you are not directly involved. However, talk to any Indian in Australia and see what they have to say. Good examples are Engineers and Qualified people from India working as Cleaners and Taxi Drivers because of their origins. Racism cannot be felt from afar and sitting in your own lounge room. You have to be in the midst of it to understand.
by Jack Johnson (Australia) on Jan 21, 2010 4:42 AM IST Report Abuse
Well said Vijay ... you do not have to stop believing in your culture and values to blend with other country's culture. You need to make some effort to make yourself a part of some other country's lifestyle...only then they will treat you at par with their countrymen.....this is true for all countries and not just Autralia
by Amit (Guwahati) on Jan 20, 2010 6:26 PM IST Report Abuse
The problem, in fact, starts here. Many immigrants resist integrating into mainstream Australia. They want the benefits and lifestyle of a Western nation, but without blending with its current. Over a period of time this creates a cultural rift, first in their lives and then in their minds, which, in the absence of any logical definition, they term "racism". so they have to know that. AS YOU IN ROME, DO AS THE ROMANS DO.
by Vijay (Patiala (Punjab)) on Jan 19, 2010 6:23 PM IST Report Abuse
I sincerely do not think so. It is just the Indian media that has blown it up out of proportion. Attacks on innocent citizens for gain is common all over the globe. If we start seeing this as an attack on the Indians, I am afraid we will not be able to live anywhere - even in India.
by Prakkash (India, Madurai) on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 AM IST Report Abuse
Australia is a racist country! They jelous INDIANS....Dont go aus.>>>They r not respect Indians>>>> Thats all!
by PIYUSH (NAGPUR) on Jan 17, 2010 8:38 PM IST Report Abuse
I studied in australia for 2 years never i felt out of place infact australians were very friendly...students should behave like students and not misbehave in public ...by NOT roaming around in the mid night. if they cant do that you cant blame australians for tat
by apar (chennai) on Jan 17, 2010 10:23 AM IST Report Abuse
AUSTRALIA IS NOT A RACIST COUNTRY....I have studied in australia and never felt i am out of my countryy...so i disagree to the point written above.
by rachit (bangalore) on Jan 15, 2010 5:37 PM IST Report Abuse
Also I would like to say..."No country is Good or Bad; it the citizens of that country that make the country whatever it is"
by Rahul (Delhi) on Jan 12, 2010 8:46 PM IST Report Abuse
Australia is a racist country!
by Rahul (Delhi) on Jan 12, 2010 8:44 PM IST Report Abuse
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